Interview with Marianne Williamson About ‘A Course in Miracles’

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When I was at a difficult turning point in my life, I was guided to my divine teacher, Marianne Williamson. Marianne is the New York Times bestselling author of A Return to Love and many other books.

It is because of Marianne that I became a student of the metaphysical text A Course in Miracles. Her lectures and books demystified the principles of the Course so that I could apply the life-changing lessons in my own life. I am endlessly grateful for Marianne’s impact on me and the world.

In this interview, Marianne shares about her experience with A Course in Miracles and offers up advice to people who are new to the text. Enjoy my conversation with Marianne Williamson!

GB: What was going on in your life when you found A Course in Miracles?
MW: I wasn’t the happiest person, that’s for sure. Kind of muddling through my twenties at the time. When I first saw the book, the language was way too intense for me. But when it appeared in my life a year later, I was drawn to it like to some mysterious force. Which it is, of course!

For the reader who is new to A Course in Miracles, please help them understand the difference between what is real and what is an illusion.
You know how sometimes you have a fight with someone and then when it’s finally over, one of you says, “I love you” and the other one says, “I love you too” and maybe you hug and feel all emotional?

That’s what it means. It means we have to go through all the he-said, she-said, you-said, I-said, all the craziness and arguing and triggering each other just to get to the point at the very end where there’s only forgiveness and understanding and you say “I love you” and they say “I love you” too.

The love is what’s left at the end because it’s the bedrock, fundamental reality that gets hidden all the time, but never really goes away. What happened before that was just mutual projection and hurt and anger and blame, but in the end it wasn’t real. It felt real, but it was just energy… issues… illusion, really.

Love is who we are, and when we deviate from that love we’re deviating from our ultimate, essential, eternal reality. Only God’s thoughts, or love, is actually real. So when we separate ourselves from that love, we’re actually not thinking at all: we’re hallucinating. And that’s what illusion is. It feels real, even more real than love does sometimes. But the love is who we really are.

What’s your process of surrendering your fears to the Holy Spirit?
Pretty simple. “Dear God, I feel this or that fear, this or that anxiety, this or that anger, this or that judgment, this or that neediness, this or that whatever. Please take it from me. Amen.”

Is there a workbook exercise that you love the most?
Into His Presence Would I Enter Now. Though Creation’s Gentleness Is All I See runs a close second.

What is your favorite prayer from A Course in Miracles?
“Where would You have me go? What would You have me do? What would You have me say, and to whom?”

Right on. That’s my favorite, too! How do you work miracles?
By changing your mind, using it differently. Recognizing where you’re thinking thoughts of fear, and replace them with thoughts of love. Simple actually, though God knows not always easy. What’s hard is getting over our resistance to doing it.

How can we best apply the principles of A Course in Miracles in our daily lives?
By starting each morning doing the workbook. My mother taught me that if you make chili with too much cayenne pepper, all you have to do is put a raw potato in it and that will suck up all the excess hot pepper. That’s how I feel about my workbook lesson each day: it helps to suck up my excess neurotic thinking.

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  1. Hi Gabby,
    Did Marianne ever suggest which Edition of “A Course in Miracles” to study? The pop out window here goes to Mass Market but there are various to choose from?

  2. Gabby! I found this- not by mistake-because I have been searching for this answer. I have gone through the 12 steps of AA twice and I want more! I want to go through the course with my sponsor. When you say “doing the workbook” what do you mean exactly? How does one go through the book? Is there a workbook companion piece? Thank you!

    1. Yes, Shoshanna. A Course in Miracles contains both a text book and a workbook. The text discusses all of the concepts and principles that will help you create an energetic shift. Then there are 365 lessons in the workbook (one for each day of the year) to help you stay in the practice of releasing fear and choosing love. I hope this helps. xoxo

  3. Hi from Belgium, thanks for your post, I was so curious you mentioning Marianne, few years ago, and also the Acim, just bought it a few days ago, I am a spirit junkie, do you think Acim is still good to do it in 2020, there are soooo many interesting philosophies, is what makes Acim more outstanding than others ?

    1. Absolutely, Teke. A Course in Miracles is intended to help us release the fearful thoughts and limiting beliefs that are blocking us from the presence of love. There are many different methods and philosophies that people use to create meaningful change in their lives. The right and perfect practice will be different for everybody. My suggestion is to find the one that resonates most with you! xo

  4. A Course in Miracles is a vibrant non-dual program to heal and awaken the mind. For me, after decades of seeking, it was the answer to the deepest call of my heart. It brought clarity to the seeming discrepancies between it and the Judeo-Christian theology I was born into, and is a very clear and practical program for undoing all the blocks to awakening to your true identity—to Oneness.

  5. When I originally commented I clicked the “Notify me when new comments are added” checkbox and now each time a comment is
    added I get three emails with the same comment. Is there any way you can remove people from that
    service? Thanks!

  6. Love is NOT “who” you are! Who you are is total BS. Love is WHAT you are and WHERE you are. The important thing, which the Course emphasizes, is to know WHERE you are. Because there – and ONLY there – is where Love IS.

    1. I know its my ego which is questioning why you feel the need to correct what everybody else is commenting. Perhaps you should take a look back at the parts about forgiving others(not seeing there perceptual errors). I know I need to. Love Marianne

  7. Hi there Gabby
    Yesterday I was into week one of the Course in Miracles and the daily shifts in perception and experiences have been amazing. I’m a teacher and one of the students that I had a few issues with a few weeks ago, wrote a little note for me in class yesterday saying that she ‘adores me and that I’m one of her favorite teachers’. I don’t pay so much attention to the fact that she ‘adores’ me but the simple fact that she has opened up her heart and doesn’t see me as a rival any longer, has made ALL the difference. I have actually been thinking and sending HEAPS of positive vibes towards that particular girl (which I think is suffering a lot and projecting all her insecurities and fears on to others). It’s amazing how a shift in perception in yourself can be felt by others as well. I am grateful for the time and energy you have taken to write this book and to make it available to the world. Many thanks and lots of love, Therese

    1. While I am thrilled to read of your positive experiences (we ALL benefit from each one’s happiness), none of this has any relevance to what the Course teaches. The Course is NOT teaching you to calm your ego mind (the only mind we know unless we are awakened). It is asking you to CHANGED your mind. Changing your mind means there is no longer any PERSONAL identity.

  8. Wonderful interview! I am on Day 25 of May Cause Miracles and miracles are happening already…thank you so much Gabby!! Today is Friday the 13th, and in A Woman’s Worth by Marianne Williamson (amazing!), she says this was originally not a “bad luck” day, but a day when women would gather and connect spiritually. I hope all us women can reignite that idea and support each other in our journey through life! Xoxo

    1. We don’t connect spiritually. That is pure fantasy. We are ALREADY connected spiritually – it can’t be otherwise. The problem is we are distracted by our egos which tell us that spirituality is a means of “growth” or a way of feeling better about ourselves. Love – which is WHAT WE ARE is PERFECT. What is it then that you feel you are growing into? Perfection is NOT a matter of degrees. It’s here waiting for you to RECOGNIZE it, not “acquire” it. Only the ego seeks to acquire ANYTHING.

  9. You and Marianne are some of my favorite teachers of the course! The course has changed my life and continues to! I wake up each morning thrilled to sit down and work on another lesson. 🙂

  10. Gabby, I saw you speak at NYU this summer and you were simply glorious! You inspired me and I just finished reading A Return to Love, and Marianne, your writing is truly God’s gift to you and to all of us. Thank you both for not only telling, but showing us all a new (but, of course, not new at all) way to live and be.

  11. I just watched you on Oprah’s SSS…I was so stunned. I felt as if you were speaking directly to me, expressing my own thoughts. I am so inspired by your words. Just to know there are leaders like you, whom we can be inspired by and learn from; that is in our generation and can understand what we are wanting and craving out of life, is relieving and exciting. I cannot wait to read your book, and Marianne’s as well. I wish you the best and continued success. Thank you.

  12. Love this! Love you both! Gabby…you led me to ACIM two years ago! I am still working through the workbook, days I forget, but always come right back to it! After reading Add More ING, I walked into Barnes & Noble and ACIM literally jumped off the shelf in the entry way! I knew I was meant to read it. I then started reading more of Marianne’s work, including Return to Love. So powerful and life changing. My life has opened up and changed so much over the past two years. Major shifts happening this year! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!

  13. Love this! Love you both! Gabby…you led me to ACIM two years ago! I am still working through the workbook, days I forget, but always come right back to it! After reading Add More ING, I walked into Barnes & Noble and ACIM literally jumped off the shelf in the entry way! I knew I was meant to read it. I then started reading more of Marianne’s work, including Return to Love. So powerful and life changing. My life has opened up and changed so much over the past two years. Major shifts happening this year! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!

  14. I’m new to A Course In Miracles as I am in Day 4,in Gabrielle’s Book, May Cause Miracles. I have already seen shifts in my life and I can’t wait to continue on the path of LOVE! Thank you!

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