Days before the war broke out in Ukraine, a young woman messaged me. “Gabby, I live in Kiev,” she wrote. “I need a prayer right now,” 

The moment I received that message, I felt the spirit of my grandmother by my side. I could hear her whispering into my ear, Help this girl. 

My grandmother was a Holocaust survivor. And the people who helped her survive are the reason I’m here today. 

Really take that in: An entire generation of my family exists because people helped just one individual—my grandmother!

The Ripple of Kindness

In the face of tragedy, destruction and international crises, it’s easy to feel powerless. But in these times, I just remember my grandmother’s story. I remember that kindness has a ripple effect.

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I remember that kindness is my origin story.  

So my feeling is this: If I can help one life, then I’ve done my job. And I want to empower you with the same feeling of hope today. 

Whether you want to help someone who’s struggling through a crisis or help yourself feel more resilient, today’s Dear Gabby is for you. 

This episode is very special. When Polish psychologist Joanna Chmura asked me to appear on her podcast, I was thrilled to accept the invitation. I couldn’t wait to speak to the people of Eastern Europe—and I felt an instant connection with Joanna.  

“I can’t wait to be your friend after this,” I told her as the podcast wrapped. Not only does Joanna look like an angel, but there’s an angelic presence coursing through her. 

She’s someone who’s clearly working with Spirit to bring messages of hope and spiritual resilience to the world. And I wanted to bring those messages to you! 

So on Dear Gabby today, I’m sharing my interview from Joanna’s Story to Tell podcast. If you need a massive injection of hope, this is it! Press play to learn: 

  • How to take care of yourself in times of crisis (and why this is the least selfish thing you can do)  
  • A MAJOR spiritual lesson I learned from my kittens
  • A mindset shift that will keep you connected to hope … no matter what 
  • The eight qualities you can tap into to become your highest self (these qualities are present in all of us) 
  • The four techniques I use to tame anxiety on the spot

The Desire to Heal

I want you to remember this: In times of crisis, we start to connect to people we never would have connected to before. 

Pretenses dissolve, boundaries dissolve, and the unified desire to heal becomes a stronger force between people.

When 9-11 happened in the United States, I lived in downtown Manhattan. As I walked around the city streets in the aftermath of that horrific event, I knew that I had a choice.

The Lens of Humanity

I could have walked around looking through the lens of fear. The fear was there, of course—but I worked through it. And I chose to see through the lens of humanity instead. 

Looking at the world in this way, I was able to witness humanity in its greatness. I witnessed people who never would have communicated before having loving conversations. I  witnessed cab drivers pick homeless people up off the street and drive them uptown.

After witnessing people in their full, true humanity, I vowed to stay in that vision forever. This has been a cornerstone of my spiritual practice, and this view of the world has helped me feel more resilient and full of hope … no matter what’s going on in the world. How different would your life be if you committed to seeing the world through the lens of humanity? I hope you give it a try—if only for a day! And this Dear Gabby will inspire you to stay in that vision.

Feel More Resilient

Joanna asked me a beautiful question as we were wrapping up our interview. “Gabby,” she said, “how can we speak to people in crisis when we don’t have any answers for them?” 

My answer: the eight C’s. 

The eight C’s, which I write about in my new book, Happy Days, are the qualities we can tap into to become the highest version of ourselves. (This is also known as Self, with a capital S.) 

Those qualities are compassion, curiosity, calmness, connectedness, creativity, courage, clarity and confidence. When you meet anyone while embodying those qualities, you will support them. It’s not what you say; it’s how you show up. Your presence is your power. And I hope this episode of Dear Gabby helps you tap into your presence.

Get More Gabby

The following are helpful resources and books I mention in the episode: 

Joanna Chmura is a psychologist who names courage as her speciality. Through her individual and group counseling services—and through her Story to Tell podcast—Joanna gives people the support they need to lead courageous lives. You can learn more about my extraordinary new friend here

In this episode of Dear Gabby, I reference two of my books. The Universe Has Your Back is about transforming fear into faith, and it couldn’t be more relevant for today’s topic.

Happy Days: The Guided Path from Trauma to Profound Freedom and Inner Peace is for anyone who’s ready to do some deeper work to liberate themselves from trauma. This book delves more into the eight qualities of Self that I touch upon in this episode. It’s also available as an audiobook from Audible. 

Want even more support? I created the Miracle Membership to help you design a spiritual practice you can stick to—so you can feel connected, supported and inspired every day. Each week I deliver brand new lessons, guided meditations, community connection and so much more. Plus, there’s a different 21-day challenge each quarter. The membership’s easy to access on your phone, computer or tablet. Click here to join.

If you are in need of safety, recovery or mental health resources, please consult this list. I’m proud of you for being here. 

I intend for this podcast to educate, inspire and support you on your personal journey toward inner peace. I am not a psychologist or a medical doctor and do not offer any professional health or medical advice. If you are suffering from any psychological  or medical conditions, please seek help from  a qualified health professional.


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Hi there, Gabby here, this podcast is intended to educate, inspire and support you on your personal journey towards inner peace. I’m not a psychologist or a medical doctor a...

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

Hi there, Gabby here, this podcast is intended to educate, inspire and support you on your personal journey towards inner peace. I’m not a psychologist or a medical doctor and do not offer any professional health or medical advice. If you are suffering from a psychological or medical condition, please seek help from a qualified health professional.

Hey there. Welcome to Dear Gabby. I’m your host Gabby Bernstein. And if you landed here, it is absolutely no accident. It means that you’re ready to feel good and manifest a life beyond your wildest dreams. Let’s get started.

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Welcome back to Dear Gabby. Today I have a really interesting episode for you. Something that is very, very deep, very timely. I believe it will be very helpful for anyone who is struggling at this time to grapple with what’s happening in the world. This episode actually was an interview that I did— another woman’s podcast, a beautiful woman named Joanna Chmura, and she has a podcast called A Story to Tell.

And she’s a woman who lives in Poland at this time. She has been working to really support people through this crisis that’s happening in the Ukraine, support the Polish community and their experience of welcoming refugees. It’s such a gorgeous conversation about how to stay in your spiritual solution mindset and to really open your heart to the miracle mindset even in times of crisis.

I share a lot of methods for how to take care of yourself in times of crisis, so that you have more energy so that you can actually show up for other people and yourself. I offer exercises that you can use to build your spiritual resilience, even in the most difficult times.

This is such a big part of the conversation that I can’t wait for you to take in. She asked me a lot of questions about how you can use your physical body to stay hopeful and optimistic. And so I go really, really deep into it. And I give you these methods. Even if you’re living in a tiny apartment, you can use these physical practices.

I offer this amazing mindset shift that will keep you connected to hope no matter what’s happening around you. I share a therapeutic tool that I use to change the way I look at things. And it’s really a beautiful method that was inspired by my mentor and friend, Dr. Wayne Dyer. There’s so much packed into this interview.

Again, she’s interviewing me. So this is a little Dear Gabby turn of the table, and it’s really about using your spiritual tools to support you during times of crisis, wherever you are in the world, you are experiencing some form of crisis. We are alive in a pandemic. We are alive when there’s a war; we are alive when there is a tremendous amount of fear, and financial insecurity.

I don’t need to remind you of everything that’s happening in the world. So I wanna really offer you the techniques to really support you with your anxiety and support your nervous system. And most importantly, give you hope in this difficult time. And I wanna thank Joanna for being a midwife for this conversation. Her energy and her love brought out a very open conversation about how we can really lean on our spiritual faith to live with grace, no matter what’s happening around us.

Enjoy the show.

JOANNA: When there are millions of immigrants, not, you know, trying to figure out their life from scratch, how can we support them? And also how can spirituality support them and us in helping them?

GABBY: Beautiful question. Well, I think whether you’re a first responder, literally in Poland, welcoming people into your country and, in many cases, into your home or your millions and millions of miles away, many of us have a pull to show up to do something, to be of service, to be a container for people to feel held. And I believe that when we have these moments of desire to show up, we can obviously get shut down when we think we have to do it all, but it’s really the ripple effect of each individual’s commitment to one another that allows us to create long-lasting extended change. So for myself, I can only speak for myself right now, but I’m not in Poland, but I’m in America watching what’s happening in the world.

Just like everyone else. I got a message from a woman named Alexandra who lives in Kyiv—a young woman. She messaged me a few days before the invasion and the war. And she was like, I need a prayer, reach out. And we’ve been communicating ever since. And so while I have felt extremely powerless all the way over here, and you guys have a lot more power to serve than I do.

I made the commitment to be in the service of this one person. To employ her in ways that I can. To support her, to, to exhaust every option of helping her get out if, and when she decides to leave and to make that commitment to her.

My grandmother was a Holocaust survivor and her ability to be in Switzerland at that time and her ability to then get to England. And the people that helped her along the way are why I’m here. So my feeling is if I can help one life, then I have done my job. And so being in Poland and witnessing a lot of lives coming through and wanting to show up. Focus on the individual, focus on what you can do, because if you try to do it all, you’ll get burnt out and overwhelmed.

And then you’re not gonna be able to be a container to hold that because you guys are going through this in your own way. Right. You’re right on the border of this horrific experience you’re witnessing people come through traumatized. You are collectively traumatized. So, you have to care for yourselves so that you can be a healthy container to show up for others.

For you specifically as a psychologist, I would really just get granular here and suggest doing any kind of online meetings or getting people to safely gather in the support of one another, sharing tools as you see I do for people to help them regulate and reaching out exactly as you have to me. And just having conversations like this, you’re already doing it.

And you look so angelic. It’s almost, I mean, you’re absolutely gorgeous, but there’s this angelic presence. Like, I feel that you know, you’re working with an angelic presence that it’s not just you, there’s a spiritual presence working through you. And I felt that with my grandmother saying help this girl help this young woman.

And so just DMing with her about 10 minutes ago, you know, this has been going on for three months, right? It won’t stop and it won’t stop. And maybe one day she’ll live in my town and I’ll take care of her. I don’t know. We’ll see. That’s my goal.

JOANNA: Yeah. Thank you for appreciating that. And also thank you for sharing that even helping even, you know, air quotes, helping one person is, is also helpful because sometimes you fall into the trap. You either help like a thousand or you’re not helpful at all.

GABBY: Right.

JOANNA: A bad trap to fall into.

GABBY: Yeah. I mean, listen. There’s ways to do both. You can make donations to organizations that you know, are helping many, and at the same time you can show up for that one individual.

But for me, I think that the benefit of thinking about the fact that my grandmother was able to get to safety and be safe is why I’m here. So there’s a whole generation that will be alive as a result of the support you can help for one individual.

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JOANNA: On the 24th of February, I woke up, I heard the news and I thought immediately like, okay, so what can I do sitting in a safe house, you know, in, in a capital of Poland. And I thought I have to write, and I have what you mentioned, uh, pretty often like a, like a sort of. I was just writing down something that was coming from somewhere else.

I was just, you know, jotting down and, and I posted on my social media and the post more or less was all about, okay, the war is like happening right next to us. Uh, what do we have to do right now? Every person you see that you love tell this person that you love her or him or they, when you are gonna drive your car to the, you know, to your work.

Put on a music that you love and appreciate that you can listen to that music. Like the smallest thing that we can do. And I got appreciated a lot, but I also got, um, criticized for that. Like, people are dying there. Like what does it, what does it make a difference to listen to a music that you like, like, you know, you’re too spiritual.

You’re too like airy you’re too, like not grounded, like listen girl. And I thought, why again, do we do that dichotomy? Like it’s either, or it’s it’s, it’s both. So how do you deal with, you know, that sort of, um, criticism?

GABBY: I think it’s acceptance, you know, not everyone, most of humankind are not ready to make that shift. That’s why there’s war because of people that have unresolved wounds. So those of us who have those desires to lean into growth and inspiration and spiritual connection. We can’t expect everybody to get on board, but those of us who have the willingness to do it, that’s on us. We have to raise the vibration and somebody said something to me the other day, they said, we were talking about a friend of mine, who’s struggling.

And I was trying to help them and she didn’t want any help. And she said to me. That’s her contract. You have yours. And so, you know, if somebody’s criticizing you either just forgive and delete, or just say very simply I’m sending prayers to you to feel safe in whatever way you can. Because don’t stop what you’re doing.

Don’t dim your light. The moments of your grace really count. And I’ll tell you why. When you are in that state of deep connection to your spiritual power and your spiritual presence, you have more energy. You have more intuition. You have a stronger sense of connection to the universe. You have more physical wellbeing.

In that state, you have more power to help others. Don’t dim that light.

JOANNA: And what are the practices that you would suggest, or you would invite us all to do while still navigating through this darkness, but also probably more to come? What can we do to keep the light on?

GABBY: The same thing I’ve been saying to my friend, Alexandra. Alexandra, who’s living in Kyiv right now.

It’s really about building up your spiritual resilience. So right now, she’s in Kyiv, she’s in the middle of this war. She’s with her partner. She has her dog and she’s meditating daily. She’s listening to EMDR music while she meditates. She’s listening to the Miracle Membership. She’s reading the books, she’s deepening her prayer.

She’s actually doing some of the biggest, most profound, personal growth work that I’ve ever seen anybody do in a crisis. And she’s using the time to really get right within, I would always really lean on the, the heroes that came before us doing whatever we can to create that spiritual resilience.

JOANNA: That actually translates into physical resilience and physical strength to help others.

GABBY: Yeah, definitely. Because when other people around us are co-regulating with our energy. And when you have the power energy, when you have the energy of light, when you have the energy of grace, it’s actually very important for you to be boundaried. So you don’t pick up the, the energy that’s not that frequency, but also to be that presence in that scenario with the other.

So I liken it to a child to being with a baby little, little child, or even my kittens. Right? My presence can dictate the whole energy of the room. So they’re regulating off of my presence, but they’re not taking anything from me. They’re just receiving the benefit of my presence. And so don’t ever underestimate that.

JOANNA: And when we are surrounded with darkness, because now we talk about war, but there are still like the regular things happening. People get sick, they die, they divorce. They, they, you know, have to move, leave their houses, not only in Ukraine, but all around the world. Maybe it’s a, it’s a big question, but how to not lose hope in humanity in, in the goodness in the world.

Cause it’s easy to do it. Like, like there’s so many things happening around the world that think, oh, we’re just, you know, moving downwards.

GABBY: Mm-hmm yeah, we can’t lose hope in humanity. That’s what we’ve got. Hope is what we’ve got. We can also not override the reality of what’s happening around us and pretend like it’s, we can’t spiritually whitewash it, right?

Like, oh, that didn’t happen. So it’s about taking in and processing the information and the experiences and using whatever work we can, whether it be trauma-based therapeutic practices or breath work, or body-based work or physical movement is very valuable at this time. Even if you’re stuck in an apartment, just physically moving.

Yoga, stretching, moving because you don’t wanna get that energy stuck in you, but the hope the hope has to remain because without that hope, then we succumb to that depth of darkness. So we must for our own well-being and for the well-being of the world, maintain that hope. And the way to stay connected to hope is to redirect your vision, your view.

So do you choose to view the darkness or are you going to view the light in the situation? So the scenarios where you witness people helping one another, you witness the survival. When you witness the opportunities, the, the caring when 9/11 happened in the United States, there’s two lenses I could have walked the streets with the fear lens, which was there of course, but I worked through it and continue to daily, but this lens of just witnessing humanity in its greatness, right?

Witnessing people who never would’ve communicated before communicating, witnessing cab drivers pick homeless people up off the street and drive them uptown, witnessing, just carrying people around. I lived in downtown Manhattan. So just seeing that true humanity and to do your part to stay in that vision.

Forever. Not just for a period of time. This is very valuable.

JOANNA: Yeah. And I think it’s sort of, um, a choice that we can make. Every time we see something difficult happening, I was driving down downtown today and, um, I stopped at the traffic light and the lady behind me started honking because I wasn’t, you know, fast enough to move when the green lights went on.

And my first reaction was like, geez, like, like why? And then I thought, how about let’s make up a story about her. Maybe she’s rushing to get her baby out of the nursery because they called and something is wrong. And it sort of like shifted my energy, like compassion. Okay. I’ll speed up. If she’s in hurry, then I’ll speed up. And it’s all about the second that I make that choice.

GABBY: You’re extraordinary. I adore you. I can’t wait to be friends with you. I hope to visit you in person. That’s exactly right. It’s recognizing that we’re all suffering. Even the worst people in the world are suffering and they’re suffering most. The suffering is, is a collective experience.

What I often do is if I’m around someone who is having a bad attitude, I just double down with kindness, just like you look beautiful today, you know? And I mean, it, I’m not bullshitting them, but I really I’ve doubled down with kindness because what do they need then? You know, they need you.

JOANNA: Even more than the, the happy ones.

GABBY: That’s right.

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JOANNA: I admire your relationship if I may say so with Wayne Dyer and everything, you know, he did in our lives and, and in your life. And there’s this one sentence that I go back to, like every time darkness, you know, is creeping into my life that he said something like, when you change the way you look at things, things around you change.

And I think this is sort of a solution or a tool that we can apply every single day, every single. Um, how do you apply it?

GABBY: Oh, well, I always use the eight CS. So in Internal Family Systems therapy, which you might be familiar with, we lean into, how can I see this with curiosity and courage, compassion, connectedness, creativity, calmness, and, and giving ourselves curiosity.

If I left that one out courage. Right? So just really give ourselves the shift of: I want to see it through the lens of that negativity. How can I lean into those C qualities? Those C qualities are our higher self that’s, who we really are. That’s the truth of who we are.

JOANNA: Mm-hmm. And I also reach out for the help, not only living beauties like you right now, but also, um, The, the spiritual guide.

There’s always some, someone behind me. Like, like even if, if I fall into the trap of, you know, being down to the earth, thinking, oh my God, I’m all alone. I’m never alone. But I do struggle with I now I set it up loud, so everybody knows it. But, uh, I also work with in the business settings, in the business contexts, and it’s sort of that part of me that I show rarely.

Because as you said to my previous questions, not everybody’s ready for that. However, I wanna ask you because you’ve got extensive experience in that. Is there any way I can sort of invite people to reconnect to their guardian angels if they do not believe in it?

GABBY: I would really help them connect to their intuition and inspiration.

As Wayne Dyer would say in spirit is inspired. So if your language is such that you recommend these practices for connecting to that intuitive inner voice, inner guidance system, intuitive, inspired nature, then they can get behind that. The second thing you say something about angels, they’re gonna check out and then you can’t do your job.

So you have to really do your part to just in whatever way you can just, uh, expand the language, expand the lexicon.

JOANNA: Mm-hmm. Thank you. And what do you do when you get anxious or scared or afraid?

GABBY: I have a lot of practices. I do a heart hold. I place my hand on my heart and my other hand on my belly and I just breathe deeply, deep belly breath, inhale on the, on the diaphragm.

And then on the exhale, I let that relax. I drop my tongue, I relax my tongue and that just starts to relax my jaw and my whole nervous system settles. I move physically. I get curious about what’s coming up. I ask myself, you know, what do you need? How are you doing?

JOANNA: Mm-hmm mm-hmm but, but fear is only one of the plenty of emotions that we experience.

The other one is, is, is being angry, anger. And I love what you write about in, in your latest book about the rage on the page thing. Um, and I, I don’t know what it’s like in the U.S., but in the Polish setting. Um, and going back to my generation and the, the, the former ones, our parents ones, females, especially, we’re not very encouraged to, to get angry.

We’re supposed to be nice and happy and, and shy in the corner, waiting for somebody to ask us to the front, to the center and especially with the Catholic background, it, that supports that vision. So I think culturally, Polish women are getting reconnected with their anger, but not in a negative way, but as sort of integrating it back.

GABBY: Beautiful. Excellent.

JOANNA: Because I do think we need it.

GABBY: Oh yeah. I would recommend that practice to your patients for sure. Because they may be so afraid to rage that you may need to even use different language, like, you know, thoughts on the page or something, like get out whatever it is that you need to get out.

Do it freely do it effortlessly because if, if you don’t have a safe place to release it audibly, or, you know, just speaking, speaking truth, get it out onto the page. And what I love about that also is listening to that binaural music, which I can give you to share with people it’s on my Spotify, and that will help re-reprocess those emotional disturbances while you’re in that practice of journaling.

JOANNA: And from the spiritual point of view, what is the benefit of integrating anger into our everyday life? Cause some people think that anger is on the dark side. I don’t agree.

GABBY: Whatever we don’t let out, stays stuck within. So we will, if we hold onto that anger, it’s going to show up in our back pain and our migraines and our sleep issues.

It’s just gonna keep showing up, it’s gonna keep showing.

JOANNA: Following up on women when the refugees were coming into Poland, most of them are women and children. And I thought immediately of how about if I step back and look, look at the, the wave of femininity, moving into our country, the Slavic wave.
There’s a reason for it? I think so. I’m not sure.


JOANNA: What the answer there, but, uh, any ideas?

GABBY: Wow. Wow. Well, I’m just gonna follow what your intuition is, and that’s stunning this, this beautiful wave of feminine coming through. How powerful is that? Wow. I, uh, I think that it’s a beautiful image just for me to hold.

And I think that you’ll be the first to know what that’s for. Be in the support of it.

JOANNA: Mm-hmm, hopefully embracing this, the, the, the power that it brings into our country, because it’s all about, I think, sisterhood and trying to reconnect to women because we were for ages, we were like not really encouraged to do that.

Um, but now I think we are sort of reconnecting to the idea of being friends to one another and not the, the foes so I think, yes, there’s something in it.

GABBY: Yeah, well, in times of crisis, that’s often when we start to connect to those who we never otherwise would connect to a lot of the pretenses dissolve and the boundaries dissolve. The unified desire to, to heal comes as a stronger resonance between people than when we’re just walking around and everything seems fine.

JOANNA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think I was, um, on 24th of, of February, I was giving a talk online and I was supposed to do, you know something, but then obviously it all shifted. And I think it was one of those experiences. When I, when I saw they were, they had like, there were like hundred people on it and all cameras were on.

And sort of like, you felt the connection in the time of crisis. We, we so wanted to be together that it was one of the, and it was a business context. And I, and I thought, wow, in the, in the, in those challenging moments, the masks just, just fall off.

GABBY: Off. Yes, that’s exactly right. And when we have these openings for that, we have to jump in and just show up.

I think that’s exactly right.

JOANNA: Yeah. Yeah. And going back to your beautiful books and I do like, like giveaway, like send to everybody, try to figure out like the gift, like read that one. My favorite one is The Universe Has Your Back, obviously. I think that’s most people’s favorite for sure. Yeah. Yeah. But which of the books would you recommend as the ones to reach out in the times of darkness?

GABBY: Right now? I think The Universe Has Your Back would be really valuable for people. But I also think because it’s the it’s about transforming fear into faith. But if someone’s really willing to do some deeper work and start to feel relief and needs to face some trauma, which is most people, but not everybody’s ready for it, but if they are ready for it, I would say read Happy Days or listen to the audiobook.

JOANNA: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I do have one question from our viewers and it, it goes like this. How should we talk to immigrants in crisis when we often don’t have any answers or words that can give them much hope?

GABBY: The eight Cs. Compassion, curiosity, calmness, connectedness creativity, courage. And there’s another one that I’m leaving out but being in that curiosity and that compassion towards the courage is yourself with a capital S. And so when you meet anyone from that place, they, that will have a helpful resonance for them that will support them.

JOANNA: Yeah. And again, I think we fall into the trap of having the right words.

GABBY: It’s not what we say. It’s how we show up. Yeah. Your presence is your power.

JOANNA: Yeah, exactly. Not having, uh, I think Brené Brown says something about that. Empathy sometimes is all about just being with that person and not having all the answers to that. Yeah. If there’s anything you feel like you wanna share with, with our viewers, Polish people.

GABBY: Yeah, I really do. I wanna. To speak to the Polish people and say on behalf of all of us watching from around the world, not able to be a presence, a physical presence, not being able to feed a meal, not being able to bring someone into our home. I am so grateful to know that there are open hearts and open arms. It’s making me very emotional.

To do that work on behalf of those of us, who can’t physically get there or do that. And to be really proud of the way that you’re showing up.
JOANNA: Mm-hmm. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

GABBY: Thank you. I’m so proud of you.

JOANNA: Thank you. And thank you for, um, for helping us so that we can help others. It all matters. Like no matter how big or small the, the help is even. Even the, the, even, maybe that’s not the right word, but meditation and, and prayer, whatever we do will help just direct it at the people that need help.

GABBY: Absolutely. Absolutely. Don’t underestimate.

JOANNA: For all the work that you do because we feel supported by your work so that we can help others. So thank you.

GABBY: Bless you, mama. Bless you. You’re doing such a beautiful job.

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